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Economic and Management Institute of China invited the Ministry of Social Science, Hong Kong, Professor, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Fund Council Senior Fellow, Central University of Finance and Management Institute of the Chinese economy doctoral supervisor Professor Ding Xueliang on October 15, 2007 at the Central University of Finance gave a entitled of Professor Ding Xueliang, such as the following without my permission, no person may not be used publicly, published or reproduced.
Moderator: Teachers, Students, Good evening! Today we are honored to have Professor Hong Kong University of Social Division Professor Ding Xueliang, for everyone entitled He is the master of the famous sociological thought Daniel. Bell's close disciples, and now as a professor at the Faculty of Hong Kong University of society, is Senior Fellow Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Foundation. Mr. Ding Xueliang is the world's politics, and the Chinese economy research in the field of professors with international influence, including the transformation of social research, development and corruption, social development and change, and university system. Mr. Ding Xueliang of the research university system is very thorough, very concerned about the reform of Chinese universities, but very concerned including the development of the Central University of Finance and Management Institute of China's economic development. Many of the students are not unfamiliar to the Ding, who in May last year, when, for everyone to learn how to do lectures in contemporary society, that talk so that everyone is rewarding. Ding to tell you today is the U.S. admission system, which is also very enlightening topic. hope you take full advantage of this opportunity at the end of the seminar to present their issues and the full exchange of Ding. Here We warmly applauded teachers for everyone to do the small talk!
Ding Xueliang: Thank you for this evening, after class is very hard to come later. Wang teacher introduced me, I in May last year, a report done in your school, how study of contemporary social science. I was doing an adequate psychological preparation. I say this content with a lot of people learned not heard before, like, some will be refuted refuted. It is almost a year and a half, if click the Internet will find that, over the past three years, I was in college to do presentations, when I do in your school report, is the mass of one of the most widely used two, this is very easy. Some people do not agree In my opinion, but still feel that my questions and concepts, I proposed the idea of modern social science is still on the domestic undergraduate and graduate students have some inspiration.
this evening I told everyone about the content, in a sense a speech on the extension of an extension is in two levels. The first level, in the past years, from 2001 to now nearly six years, and I do most in the country's academic report or a professional report and national universities are related to the reform and development. This is a higher education. I tell you honestly, I did not explore this issue from the educational point of view. I tell you today the contents, nor is the significance of a purely educational with You explore this issue. I told a bunch of our colleagues, who some in the Hong Kong University, as well as in the United States, Canada, and the few other countries and regions in Asia and the Pacific, in Australia, Canada, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan We are doing regional competition. I have two words about the regional, such as we speak, Xicheng, Dongcheng District, is District; I say large regions like China, north, east, southeast, northwest, and even the Asia-Pacific region, is Area. our research project is a big competition between regions. Our team was inside the school of economic geography, demography, some people learn, some people learn economics, some people sociology, political science and some people science, also urban development planning at school. Our research up to now into its second year. I have spoken, I am most concerned about the university system, because this is my own belief, is also part of the scholars of the faith. into two the early eleventh century, to measure a region, a country of a large range of, say, a social area, the state has no long-term potential for competition, can in the middle is at the forefront of international competition, some of my colleagues and I determined not Move to believe, not on the other, is determined by a series of previously considered to be the second most important factor. What is the second most important factor? we first talk about is the first important factor.
before the usual ideas, talk about a country's competitiveness, we are concerned about this society in this country it has natural resources such as minerals, iron, steel, these very important factor. into the twenty-first century, these elements are still important, but more important is invisible elements, including the country's higher education system. a national higher education system is a very important national long-term competitiveness of the engine, there are several other important engines, but higher education is an important part of the engine. I consider higher education, I consider the competitiveness of the University, the University system, from the perspective of national and regional competitiveness.
do today, I give you the contents of the report, is a study in American universities as a part of. I just Several universities come from the eastern United States, I did not go to a university for many years and then a university access. This is not easy, because I fear flying, I thought it behind, a heart on the Ta plane. I take the time each Aircraft pain for several days, after landing to the pain for several days. This time I sat in earnest air, and no one way to slip away. I ran the eastern United States, and bring my attention to several universities to see a little, including Harvard, Yale, Columbia, studied the first female secretary of state in American history graduate of the college, Wellesley College. I had to talk, want to come back to my personal experience and study the contents of the back, to share with you.
Here I am talking about the content, most of this time I went to examine the experience and observation, and some of their own reflection. I first talked to your school, I was holding the same aim, of course, do not want to do a report on all against it, after all the bad against the second may be all agree that this is a bother, do not give them new information at any point, speaking of them have accepted. I speak today, the content do not expect everyone agree with me, my intention is to put them all together to discuss the contents out. As I just mentioned, I discussed the point of view is not unconscious, but not to teach you to write applications for the report, it is not our purpose, although you may be helpful. or from the competition, talent, a society from a country, a generation how we can get more creative this point to talk about this issue.
Chinese no distinction between singular and plural I want to say that several universities, Universities, into the United States if the Chinese title of the best universities are so unlike the Chinese. I hope today we will not talk about the contents of the misunderstanding, I think one love school, love you The Department of college love you, love your community, love your home, love your nation, the most important thing is to keep a clear head, to keep criticism, criticism is intended to make it better.
I tell you a simple truth that if a little about the history of higher education in China, Ye Hao, whether teachers, students Ye Hao, Ye Hao leaders or journalists, we will not forget this year, is reopening in October 30th anniversary of the system, just in October 1977, China resumed the college entrance examination system. Many people do not know this child, because in October 1977, the Chinese Cultural Revolution 1966 from the college entrance examination system was formally abolished the recovery, This is the role of the development of the Chinese nation can not imagine large enough. because a country's education system, not only for China, the role of the world are like. no matter how kind of national social systems, not just a national education system education, more importantly, the community has a great guide in turn. a national education system, how, in turn, will greatly affect, which spread in the community what purpose, what kind of spread of ideas, dissemination of what kind of approach, dissemination of what the value of .1977 in October, China resumed the college entrance examination system, not just how many people go to college was more important to change the values of Chinese society as a whole. a national education system to the entire community for students, parents, brothers and sisters of students, their relatives and neighbors, there is a holistic value of the orientation of the guide, this guide also includes misleading. From this perspective, from October 1977 mm for 30 years before mm since China resumed the college entrance examination system, and we see this phenomenon: the Chinese become more and more the basis of college entrance examination system, details of the more rigorous, more and more strict. This has caused a lot of complaints and criticism of society, the people here go back to ask your friends and parents, ask your neighbors and classmates, they are not you lucky, they are a mighty force in single time, since when sleep well, eat well rice, is to note on this complaint could be seen every day. every level of Chinese society, every family has this kind of thing, all the people here are not unfamiliar.
I have been in China since 2001 University of reform advocates, it is important part is to change the university admissions system, because the admissions system has a model, it is to establish a social framework that is square, for all young people under their parents of their friends, and even the young brother and sister, they want all development to all of life to conform to this framework, not violate them. I told the country people say, I think it should not be the case. but I should not speak for several years In this way, many people say you speak the truth, we have to understand, but you have not considered the practical problems in China, there are so many people want to go to university, colleges and universities in China, especially compared to so many good college, you how to do? If you do not have such a strict examination of the way, if you do not have such a recruitment approach, what do you do? also only this way, more just like screening personnel. I heard a lot of people do not agree with my advocacy of the university system reform. I began at once to be defeated, there are so many people grab a seat, what do you do? I suddenly defeated. But the next day woke up and found not the truth. I found to do more research, I The more there is no way agree very common knowledge in the domestic mm to change the huge difference between supply and demand, China should have such a recruitment system.
I read a message on March 31 this year, the British report, entitled The number is also increasing, acceptance rate this year, the best colleges, in the United States, the general decline of several percentage points. Harvard to 23,000 the number of applicants, acceptance rates is only 9%, Dartmouth College in 2006 and 16% acceptance rate, down to 15% in 2007, the University of Pennsylvania this year, the number of applications increased by 11% over 2006, the acceptance rate from 17% to 14%. I thought this problem, do not only China's key universities around the world who are asking too much in evidence, Is it only the good universities in China like this? America's best universities, best university in England, together with Japanese universities, they are outstanding young people around the world have the greatest appeal. but I am not a university in Japan to understand, but University of English speaking countries I know very well that they have very strict rules, they are the best universities, even if greatly increased the number of applicants each year, they do not casually enrollment. no leaders in this country closed last year, 9,000 people college application, apply for 15,000 people this year, so they Enrollment 3000.
me to read a data: the best American universities every year, enrollment in the past ten years, basically nothing changes. I know the more familiar several prestigious universities, enrollment in the past they ten to fifteen years, the growth and reduce the proportion of no more than 5%. such as Princeton University in the United States very, very good school to 6,000 the number of people, it is not enrollment. Some schools, California Institute of Technology campus before more than 2,000 people, it never enrollment. they are 1,600 undergraduate students each year, how many years are like this. There are so many people want to go to that school, which will give the school bring a lot of revenue. Princeton University's tuition fees, nine months forty-six thousand U.S. dollars, and does not include the family to buy textbooks for students, plus air fare. In the twenty best universities in the United States, an average of nine months of tuition fees is that these, as long as these schools want to make money, as long as the enrollment number plus a zero, they will make money. I was thinking of this problem, would the world do not know how these college students selected their own, only China prestigious universities in order to face such problems before with the Chinese approach to the screening exam people? Why do people not like you, I have been thinking about this problem. I think the problem started in 2001 up to now, every year trying to find Some help me solve the difficult problems. I think about the overall direction is clear, China's prestigious university admission system, in the past years, the whole of Chinese society to send out information, which in the whole of Chinese society, young people The framework is getting behind the talent, more and does not meet the requirements of our times, more innovation does not meet the country of China as a long-term development goals, more pain and misery to the family. I am not exaggerating . we have to discuss a problem, if prestigious universities around the world are huge differences between supply and demand, because this is a trend around the world, talk about The reason is simple, before many poor families can not send their children to college, and now they may change their thinking and likely to send their kids to college. In the past some families, three to five children can not go to college, and now the sharp contrast between supply and demand will only get larger, and not getting smaller. The United States is the world Higher Education in most developed countries, it did not take the Chinese approach to solve the supply and demand, this is what I am most worried about.
my next point is to look at several universities in the United States the best, I say Ma Institute of Technology, Stanford, the well known universities. You see how they do, and we have no reason to see it.
First of all, we need to get rid of a concept: only the importance of examination of Chinese higher education system, top universities in the United States not the importance of examination. the United States most of the school, in a little inferior to the Chinese, that collective training as China, which we have to admit it. What is group training? into China's schools, what kind of person you are, it does not matter you, so a lazy and learn to enter China's slightly better, he can not every day, lazy, and he do not want to do a lot of mm to the level of poor results raise a large portion of people, because people want to continue to training, and then lazy horse, stupid horse to go faster, this is the secondary school system. But the American school system is another point, it is precisely what we lack: its talented, motivated learning that the students leave space, do not know the education system in China is larger than the number. So we would say, the Chinese education system, if only just to train a large number of industrial factories army, which is the world's most effective system. certainly more effective than we Japan, they endorsed every day, but can be creative, which do not know. The American system can not pull up the poor people, it can not force you do not want to do this with the basic values of social standards. But it has other advantages, it gives consciously active, very creative, ideas and open people, leaving a high ceiling, how you jump will not have to play down China's education system will soon beat you down. admissions system designed along this line of thought over. America's best college enrollment system, is to provide high enough ceiling, high ceiling, people develop their own are not clear. because the United States higher education system is so multi-layered and multi-form, vertical multi-level, multi-form refers to the plane. so poor compared screening for these students, the University is not the best thing that they are good enough high school graduates in the United States to select the most promising they think. China's 2,000 years of misunderstanding, is not a measure of a young talent, the standard identification only point is that you can not test scores, and the way the examination system to the strange results that can can not remember the standard answer. This is very troublesome thing, only the standard of examination answers will be all the possibilities in this world have been sealed, are not able to open all the way. This examination system is based on where? The standard answer is determined by the older people, because they know the past, so they know the future? they have to decide your future, not let you have a second possibility. This is a great self-confidence! If a person knows all possibilities for the future is still alive doing? most people should commit suicide. This is equivalent to any one person to tell you, you do not do unnatural for the future. The reason why we live, is because they are there for the future different possibilities, we need to do a variety of efforts. Our traditional examination system that precisely is to tell you that there is only one standard answer, you do not take into account all the problems, as long as you do the only thing you have to try to remember that the standard answer.
If we look at America's best college admissions system, which constitutes a good few, the first one is the test, but not the kind of tests the Chinese people, previously the most widely used is the SAT. I'll SAT exam compared with the domestic. I've asked many people consider the biggest difference between where they are? asked a lot of people, they told me to write examinations in China, SAT exam test logical reasoning ability, ability to respond. The is so different! I speak specifically, if the SAT does not restrict the time, better high school graduates in China, most of the test can be very high points, the exam is these things. Finally, calculation of test scores, national test is the cumulative points, a correct answer to the fifth test is the probability NSAT, students around the world test SAT, you count the top few percent, always in a competition among you. There was the Chinese test very high scores, with the SAT exam very good, I am very impressed. such test to 2200 points or more, that you are the person in the world among high school graduates, you are the best 10%, this is glorious. you test to 2350 points more than high school graduates in the world you are, you are the best 5%. you can test 2400, high school graduates in the world, you are less than 1% of the top people. If only the top universities in the United States This approach to screening personnel, because the test has a chance. Liu Xiang is great, but each hurdle he could not say that all the world's first, unless the referee bought it. So I think test screening system design, what we learn Social Science people care about. examinations should test reasoning ability to respond.
Another Essay exam exam. several universities in the United States the best, they Essay examination method is divided into two kinds: one is the generic essay exam; essay questions asked were very universal. such as it is to you is very important to evaluate one of your own experience or achievement, or the risk is very important, not imagined, or if you have experienced, very important moral dilemma, said about the four Type in any kind of effect on you. Some people will make up, that I launched the war in Afghanistan. This is of course not, be based on facts, not nonsense, because the exam and there are other ways to find out whether you talk nonsense . Why did the four types of things are listed? your experience, experience is very plain things, like I am young, I'm only 18 years old, you always have the experience, what experience you can not say no. achievements have sizes, the risk some small, will always find a thing and then ask questions. general application to write Essay, there are several very good universities have different content. such as Stanford University's Essay technology-based IT . there is a well-known words: very appreciated, do you think of great value, or paintings of people you appreciate, do you think of great value, or draw it there are many places you love, you like. or painting the picture is Over the past life of a very important piece, so that you appreciate this picture, please tell me why this picture is so meaningful to you? If that second person to apply at Stanford University, there are three million people, taking only two Stanford University thousands of people. You want to get into the threshold, if you have no hope, you certainly will not apply. the average American has a probability of a statistical, the number of schools do not apply more than 7, otherwise it will waste your time. thirty thousand applications Stanford people, twenty thousand copies of the applications which best written? for the selection of the best, they will give you a space. you can not spread rumors, must be based on. The puzzle is difficult, if now I write and I write to.
also write essays, Princeton University, and is specifically written for the Princeton University. From a Quote to someone else's citation as a diving board, from this place jump out, as a primer, to tell them, starting from the quotation as a starting point, an event may tell you it does not matter, this event or the experience to help you determine their own values. Some people refer to Einstein, this sentence is : When the principal when the goals set for students is: years ago to write the lessons of Princeton University Princeton .2004 training has changed, says Princeton University's goal is enable students to comment on these two different motto. the third paragraph is a quote, cited the twentieth century's greatest American poet of the poem, she said, However, different people enjoy is not the same. For me and my friend is concerned, the greatest pleasure and enjoyment, than the fire in the wall next to the fire against nature, and we won the most beloved books, we read to yourself, but also read it to friends around to listen, this is for me the most happiness. it, the subject of this in advance you know, five or six years before a change, you also have to prepare.
Maybe you would say is wrong with Americans? wrong, I was a kid wanted to test Peking University, as a teacher in my hometown told me one thing, what stimulated me. twenties of the twentieth century, he said, recruited a student of Peking University, Department of History, Chinese literature to test a title for three consecutive years, on Qin Shi Huang. In the history of China, Qin Shi Huang's article about too much, Peking University in the early twentieth century, when, to tell you that next year is still the subject of examination on the Qin Shi Huang. copy is unsuccessful, the adults to write eight things and seventh old written by different people, you want to make up impossible. good university approval committee because for many years to do the job, ability to identify them well, although not one hundred percent effective, but can read most of who wrote it . because in the past twenty years, thirties, when Emperor Qin Dynasty, also called the respondent, the statement, the following are all sitting Hu, Chen these people, if not you write your own, then you will not answer. I have just talked about the reasoning ability test SAT, in addition to two short other than pure academic performance depends on not the same as with other aspects, including sports, art, which we all know.
I saw a report, Hunan a father, in order to let the children learn to swim, tied her hands and feet for her to practice swimming. Americans reported that This part is all up to now, I appreciated the most, the reason for that? America's best university training objectives, not the nerd culture. They need to train people? Harvard University, teaching objectives just by speaking, to nurture a know responsibility of the citizens. If you a good enough student, you read the four books here, you are resident here, you do what you do in this area, this is the first meaning of good citizenship. good citizens The second meaning is nationwide. you, as a Chinese citizen, you have done this country great social thing anything meaningful? you what did you live on a planet? Some might say that this goal is not too high? you are not speaking too nothing Piaomiao? I'll tell you nothing Piaomiao. precisely this point, the very good reader, who has the potential to dig out. because of the commitment and contribution to society, not have a fixed program. students from the middle of your life, find things to themselves, risking their own difficulties and risks do, in terms of young teens, he could think to do is a very great quality.
I repeat that story. I do teaching assistant at Harvard, there is a female student, the senior, she thought of the Three Gorges Project in China Three Gorges investigate the impact of immigration, it was in 1991, the Three Gorges project just long, not much country at the time people think. I asked her why she thought this, she said that the Three Gorges is the greatest water conservancy project, the project's impact on the environment and immigration I really want to know. I said it's hard, you poor Mandarin, talk about that place Sichuan, I went to could not understand, you better do not understand. the place to eat chili, no hot water bath, no email, can not contact my family, I say you can adapt to it? she thought, that need to think about. The next day she told me all think it over, or go to, called home called to say she was going. She wanted me to do two things, first, to allow her a lesson; second, can not recommend her for about funding. as to China, even if your house of money, it is the parents money, through their own money before looking for funding to prove that you have a skill. She said that funding for that, ah, ah Scholarships , do not take their parents money. Then she went on to Chongqing. spent a semester in that, she said, looking down a school I just understand most of the Sichuan dialect, just used to eating chili, I do not want to come back, I would also like to do a semester, can you support me, I said OK. I did not put this thing was about as children, eight years ago, there was an American law student, he told me inside the United States Congress there is one person in the world first-class environment, this person is a graduate of Harvard, but I still did not seriously children; Later I asked the name of my students know that she is! I do not talk nonsense, this matter to me a great education.
1992, a second girl, she had to drop out half a year, to go to camps in Thailand. the mid-nineties, when several thousand refugees in Thailand. I support her, and she also went the. came back like thin people look like, I asked her how? she said before I do not know about hardship, I do not know what the struggle, I do not know what suffering, I do not know what the dream, I What hope do not know, I know all to it. that place a lot of kids to live in fear, suffering all the things that human society, they tasted, but they still have hope that this turning point of my life unmatched, all they do not compare me to get along with kids. This is what 20 years ago, which is a commitment to society. She is not pre-think this thing is good for her? If you do not believe then you can take the risk, now you can go to Iraq to Afghanistan, and you can teach kids that you can go ah.
University of the United States there are very good in this part of the interview, the interview, there are two, one If you're kind of the most important centers in the U.S. city, the school will be responsible for sending people to interview; if you are not in the center, this interview is to serve our alumni. The role of the interview is to understand the written application of all transcripts no performance stuff. the best universities in the United States, and its admissions system has several important aspects, is very particular about the two essays, this gives you a lot of space, commitment to the community very seriously, but also attaches great importance to extracurricular expertise, the high cost of these aspects together, why should this cost, not to be judged according to papers? as an examination paper, only part of assessing the potential of a young man. Other parts, if there is no chance to be evaluated This makes it difficult. It sent out the information on the society as a whole, according to this framework to shape, will affect the number of young people, a generation after generation. higher education enrollment system, on the totality of a society is subtle , at least to affect three generations. This is the Chinese people years trees, monumental reason.
Now some high school graduates mm is not very common in the United States only a few mm before the family encountered these problems: they graduated from high school do not test into college, but want to do things that affect the community. This evening I wanted to come together with a white student, but he could not come to class. He graduated from high school in Washington is very good, with his test results can best universities in the United States. But he did not test, but a little out scholarship applications to China to study Chinese as a volunteer. during the day in the North Division of Chinese, other times when volunteers do not get a penny. was It was recommended to him, I do not want to receive him. Then they said all right, you do not have control of his life, and leave his salary, he has a scholarship, I said yes. He speaks Chinese are particularly good. I have realized that the best American college admissions system is not fixed, in such an educational system evolution, we see that life is learning, but learning life. outside the campus outside the classroom is also a form of learning, so life is very different from doing it. I am sincerely speaking with you, I am Chinese Youth ...